SPOILER ALERT: The next interview incorporates spoilers from “The Remaining Thanksgiving,” the second one season finale of “Shrinking,” now streaming on AppleTV+.

The sophomore season of AppleTV+ comedy “Shrinking” wrapped on Christmas Eve correctly sufficient with a vacation episode (Thanksgiving), the place this workforce of humorous, difficult therapists and their family members shared what they’re grateful for of their respective lives.

However for the reason that forgiveness used to be a most important theme this season, one giant arc landed in a good position: Jimmy (Jason Segel) used to be in a position to after all let move of the disgrace he’s felt over how he wasn’t a excellent father to daughter Alice (Lukita Maxwell) when his spouse/her mom swiftly died in a automobile twist of fate. Moreover, Jimmy used to be then in a position to forgive and are available to the help of a distraught Louis (Brett Goldstein), the person answerable for that dying.

Segel talked to Selection about his contemporary Golden Globe nomination for “Shrinking,” in addition to reuniting with “How I Met Your Mom” co-star Cobie Smulders (and whether or not shall we see her once more in season 3). He additionally touched on what it used to be love to cry in entrance of Harrison Ford (who performs Dr. Paul Rhoades) and what he can say in regards to the display’s 3rd season.

It’s the second one time round for you with a Golden Globe nomination, so does it have a distinct vibe this time or is there a surreal really feel to all of it?

I don’t even know if it’s surreal. You spend numerous time hoping you’re doing a excellent process and also you spend such a lot time feeling like a fraud. I’ve been doing this a truly very long time. 25 years. Isn’t that loopy? It’s been 25 years since “Freaks and Geeks.” I believe truly fortunate to nonetheless be round. I believe truly fortunate to get to make excellent paintings that persons are looking at.

Sooner than we get to the “Shrinking” finale, Episode 8 had a heavy flashback and it gave the target market numerous items into Jimmy’s previous in a while after Tia’s (Lilan Bowden) dying. Did it tell so much about Jimmy for you, or had been these items you already had to your head?

I knew all these items. That is while you noticed Jimmy at his worst and the toughest factor about that, to be utterly truthful, is Season 1 used to be such a lot about pulling Jimmy out of grief and getting again to 0. This season used to be about shifting ahead. So that you’re energetically in a distinct headspace and also you’re wearing him a bit of bit in a different way. It’s a distinct a part of the adventure to return and display him in such a lot ache once more.

I’m no longer that hippie dippy as an actor, however there used to be this sense of, like, ‘oh, God, yeah, it used to be truly unhealthy.’ To return to where the place Jimmy used to be truly failing Alice additional exacerbated this guilt and disgrace that I lift as Jimmy in those scenes with Alice. My process is to carry directly to that and stay monitor of it and slowly have it soften away. To roughly be stabbed within the center once more of, like, ‘God, you had been terrible.’ It used to be arduous to movie.

I’m guessing what wasn’t arduous to movie used to be the reunion with Cobie. There used to be any such great spark between the characters and given the thrill on the web as soon as the episode aired, it kind of feels like we’d like her again. First, what used to be it like taking pictures along with her once more?

Capturing with Cobie once more used to be a dream. We did 9 years of “How I Met Your Mom” and that used to be by no means a part of the Marshall/Robin dynamic so it used to be this hole in our appearing enjoy in combination. I feel the rationale persons are reacting to it, the rationale it looks like, ‘oh, I wish to see them in combination once more’ is this can be a scene the place two persons are assembly for the primary time, however you’re intended to have any other sense of, ‘whoa, what’s happening there?’

I feel what’s going on there, which is so cool and the way appearing works, is that we knew each and every different for 10 years in our maximum adolescence, via thick and skinny and turning into who you might be. After which to be status throughout from each and every different as full-grown adults announcing, ‘have a look at us nonetheless right here, nonetheless status.’ Those are two characters having been via some tricky occasions and Cobie and I’ve each and every one after the other been via some tricky shit aspect through aspect.

Any resolution as as to if shall we we see her persona once more?

I’m no longer looking to give any spoilers. However I feel it’s all a mirrored image of if Jimmy can get his shit in combination.

Transferring onto the finale, the place Paul tells Jimmy to stand his disgrace and worry with Alice. Is he telling him stuff that Jimmy already is aware of or is it new knowledge?

I feel that every one people have blind spots for ourselves. That’s been my enjoy in lifestyles, too. You’ll see so obviously what your good friend must do however you’ll fall into that very same development that you just fall into over and over. Sure, Jimmy almost definitely is aware of who the boogeyman below the mattress is, however it’s a lot more uncomplicated to appoint enemies. So, I feel it is only continuously announcing, ‘it’s were given to be that, it’s were given to be that.’ Paul, being an important therapist and in addition a really perfect good friend, is mainly simply telling him, ‘you’re going to be enjoying whack-a-mole till you glance below the mattress.’

When Jimmy does after all communicate to Alice, it’s a large second that we’ve all been looking ahead to. Had been you looking ahead to that scene and did it scare you in any respect to do it?

Sure, the solution is, as an actor and in addition as a author and a storyteller, I knew I had one scene I needed to nail. Each different scene may well be excellent, however this one, how truthful are you prepared to be for this? How a lot do you imagine it and imply it and what sort of are you prepared to turn it? How a lot are you prepared not to sing their own praises? How a lot are you prepared not to attempt to provoke the viewer? This must be essentially the most truthful second of the 2 seasons.

And so, sure, I felt super drive. And the take that we used, 85% is the primary take. We then popped in and did a pair shut ups, however maximum of it used to be that. If in case you have one thing like that, I in finding continuously the primary take is the appropriate one after which the whole lot after that may be a other talent of repeatability. You’re looking to do what the primary take appeared like, proper?

What number of takes did you do with that particular scene?

We did a complete of 3 takes. And after the primary take, I mentioned, ‘that’s the take.’ Then the deal that Invoice [Lawrence] and I made, I mentioned, ‘I do know you’ll be able to blow up the primary take and get lovely on the subject of an in depth up.’ I mentioned, ‘use as a lot of that as you’ll be able to after which you’ll be able to pop into this shut up.’ My fascination with movie appearing is catching one thing. I feel that’s the magic of it. It’s this complete different talent, the repeatability. That’s the craft of it. You may have to do the similar factor for 2 hours however to me, the magic section is while you catch one thing.

I watched that scene a pair occasions and love Alice’s response as a result of she is aware of what her father wishes, and she or he is simply listening for essentially the most section.  

She’s just a bit forward of Jimmy and that’s an exquisite high quality. That could be a high quality Lukita has. I don’t know the way outdated Lukita is, however she’s younger and she or he’s a truly smart younger girl.

Lets discuss running with Harrison Ford perpetually, however within the Thanksgiving scene, Paul stands up and recalls he hasn’t instructed the gang what he’s grateful for. What used to be it like for you to sit down there and watch him do this scene?

It used to be simply me and Jessica Williams (Gaby) crying disproportionate to the instance and making an attempt to not break takes. We additionally simply stored reflecting at the truth that there have been such a lot of other people in that room. Just like the individuals who play Christa (Liz) and Ted’s (Derek) youngsters, who’re younger. I consider speaking about it with Michael Urie (Brian) and, like, ‘I am hoping those youngsters perceive what they only were given to witness as it used to be a masterclass.’

And discuss repeatability. Harrison almost definitely did that speech 4 or 5 occasions to that very same impact. You concentrate to a few of these phrases he’s announcing as Paul and I don’t know the way for much longer I’m going to get to do that, however I go searching this room and I feel, ‘fortunate man, fortunate man.’ And you understand that it’s blurring this line between Paul and Harrison. There’s not anything to do however to really feel fortunate and in awe and privileged to get to be right here with Harrison at this second in his lifestyles and occupation. I am getting to have that for the remainder of my lifestyles, you understand?

Going again to the top of the former episode, Jimmy cracks and calls Paul and also you’re on a bench with him and also you cry. How do you cry subsequent to Harrison Ford?

In case you’re enjoying basketball with Michael Jordan, you’re like, ‘I would like Michael Jordan to assume I’m excellent at basketball.’ If in case you have a scene with Harrison Ford on a bench the place you’re intended to damage down, you’re like, ‘I truly need to be excellent in entrance of Harrison Ford.’ Like, at the automobile trip house I would like Harrison Ford to assume, ‘boy, Jason’s excellent at appearing.’ Jimmy desires Paul’s approval, so after all I would like that very same approval.

Within the finale, we’re intended to fret that Louis (Brett Goldstein) would possibly step in entrance of this teach as a result of he’s hit his all-time low. He doesn’t, after all, since Jimmy presentations up. However used to be {that a} speaking level in any respect as to what would occur in that second?

Yeah. It’s humorous how writing works. Invoice [Lawrence] is this fashion, which is why he’s so nice. And weirdly, it’s additionally how I feel how numerous writers assume. We knew that scene going into writing Season 2. And the similar with Season 1. We knew how Season 1 ended, additionally. We have now an attractive sturdy sense of the way Season 3 ends. It’s form of what I feel is tricky about writing, but in addition truly fascinating. It’s like New York and London after which it’s a must to pass the Atlantic. That’s what writing is to me. You may have your premise, which is your place to begin, and you then normally know the place it’s going to finish. However how do I fill those different 9 episodes?

What are you able to say about Season 3?

I’m allowed to mention our phrases for Season 3 are ‘shifting ahead.’ In order that’s all we truly know to this point. Season 1 used to be grief, Season 2 used to be forgiveness, and Season 3 is shifting ahead.

Season 2 used to be such an emotional curler coaster for Jimmy, because of this you additionally undergo so much. Does that make you extra excited to leap in for extra?

Yeah, I truly love appearing. I find it irresistible so much. I truly love my process. I am getting drained by the point I’m carried out with one thing, as a result of I truly do move all-in. However I don’t perceive why you could possibly do it another way. I’m excited at this little spoil as a result of I ended a film actually ultimate week. That used to be so much. However I’m gonna recoup over the vacations. I’m gonna do a little writing after which come into January and dive again in.